by galaxiesmerge » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:51 am
ScofieldKid wrote:General response: what we have now is a near approximation of at least
1. Oberheim Matrix 2. Moog MiniMoog 3. SCI Prophet 5 4. SCI Prophet VS 5. PPG Wave 6. Yamaha DX7 FM 7. Rotors 8. AM 9. Samples
Let's not get too greedy.
I am fairly interested in some other types of Synthesis as well. But I think the modulation possibilities we'll have with this setup, (all the filters, all the LFO's, the side-chain modulation, the 8-stage-mod), and the wicked mod matrix, should really make this a flexible instrument. But clearly, it is set up to be played. Side Note: I see you have an Andromeda. That synth was wicked to me also, in concept, but I'm not sure how well they implemented the interface. So something not to miss on the Solaris is the interface, this thing is meant to be played/tweaked/twisted... It should be great for people who like to do old sounds, or shoot for new ones. Not sure it needs to be more than it is at this point. It's pretty hairy already. I mean, I'll be sitting in front of the Solaris... I'll have direct control of it. So interfacing it with other stuff won't be that interesting to me personally. I expect this will be my main synth.
[NOTE: Forgot to add this before: since we can have any oscillator mod any other oscillator... FM, and since we can have any selection as the choice of the CARRIER and the MODULATOR in the two AM sources, and since the AM sources have a few different operations, and since we have some wicked Oscillators to begin with, like MorphSaw, and Jaws..., I'm expecting that we will be able to do a lot of interesting stuff.... ]
Yes - I do agree for the most part which is why I put myself on the list for a SOLARIS. I mean, I can do just about all of it in MAX/MSP but the issue for me is usability and interface --- I don't want to spend *too* much programming, but I do really want to spend *some* of the time programming. Hence, the SOLARIS beats MAX/MSP hands down for me for those issues.
So the real thing for me about the models (and they sound great from the demos of SOLARIS that I have seen so far) is that having the models really cuts down on programming time when looking for a certain type of sound quickly and effectively. The FM models could mimic what Synergy can do, but, not quite all of it, which is why I envisioned the model - and, incidentally, phase modulation synthesis like in the DK Synergy is similar but slightly different to the CASIO CZ phase-distortion series or other types like in the PEARL POLYSENSOR (DWS-II synthesis engine - Digital Wave Shaper), should be possibilities for the future since they all have a similar architecture. I have played the PEARL and it produced some extremely beautiful musical sounds back in the day. Of course, since I have a KYMA PACARANA I can build these models - but, what I like about SOLARIS is that it is an all in one box with a quick catalog - not having to always spend a lot of time searching through the AES journals for algorithms on oscillators.
Also, the SOLARIS could be claim to be the only off the shelf keyboard to give you authentic models of instruments past - maybe another selling point - to show the brochures and pictures of these past instruments and relate them to the SOLARIS and to also show the more modern aspects of the SOLARIS.
Hope these comments help.
Cheers!
[quote="ScofieldKid"]General response: what we have now is a near approximation of at least
1. Oberheim Matrix 2. Moog MiniMoog 3. SCI Prophet 5 4. SCI Prophet VS 5. PPG Wave 6. Yamaha DX7 FM 7. Rotors 8. AM 9. Samples
Let's not get too greedy. :wink:
I am fairly interested in some other types of Synthesis as well. But I think the modulation possibilities we'll have with this setup, (all the filters, all the LFO's, the side-chain modulation, the 8-stage-mod), and the wicked mod matrix, should really make this a flexible instrument. But clearly, it is set up to be played. Side Note: I see you have an Andromeda. That synth was wicked to me also, in concept, but I'm not sure how well they implemented the interface. So something not to miss on the Solaris is the interface, this thing is meant to be played/tweaked/twisted... It should be great for people who like to do old sounds, or shoot for new ones. Not sure it needs to be more than it is at this point. It's pretty hairy already. I mean, I'll be sitting in front of the Solaris... I'll have direct control of it. So interfacing it with other stuff won't be that interesting to me personally. I expect this will be my main synth.
[NOTE: Forgot to add this before: since we can have any oscillator mod any other oscillator... FM, and since we can have any selection as the choice of the CARRIER and the MODULATOR in the two AM sources, and since the AM sources have a few different operations, and since we have some wicked Oscillators to begin with, like MorphSaw, and Jaws..., I'm expecting that we will be able to do a lot of interesting stuff.... ][/quote]
Yes - I do agree for the most part which is why I put myself on the list for a SOLARIS. I mean, I can do just about all of it in MAX/MSP but the issue for me is usability and interface --- I don't want to spend *too* much programming, but I do really want to spend *some* of the time programming. Hence, the SOLARIS beats MAX/MSP hands down for me for those issues.
So the real thing for me about the models (and they sound great from the demos of SOLARIS that I have seen so far) is that having the models really cuts down on programming time when looking for a certain type of sound quickly and effectively. The FM models could mimic what Synergy can do, but, not quite all of it, which is why I envisioned the model - and, incidentally, phase modulation synthesis like in the DK Synergy is similar but slightly different to the CASIO CZ phase-distortion series or other types like in the PEARL POLYSENSOR (DWS-II synthesis engine - Digital Wave Shaper), should be possibilities for the future since they all have a similar architecture. I have played the PEARL and it produced some extremely beautiful musical sounds back in the day. Of course, since I have a KYMA PACARANA I can build these models - but, what I like about SOLARIS is that it is an all in one box with a quick catalog - not having to always spend a lot of time searching through the AES journals for algorithms on oscillators.
Also, the SOLARIS could be claim to be the only off the shelf keyboard to give you authentic models of instruments past - maybe another selling point - to show the brochures and pictures of these past instruments and relate them to the SOLARIS and to also show the more modern aspects of the SOLARIS.
Hope these comments help.
Cheers!