by F5D » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:49 pm
digidisiggi wrote:just a little note from somebody who own now the solaris, p12 and two A6:
there are all different beasts, but on thing comes into my mind:
- love the p12 with the nice slop parameter (random detune)
- love the A6 but never push the autotune !!
- love the solaris, this machine sounds so unbelievble fat and the editing is just superb but one thing i'm missing the most: a simple drift parameter.
you got it? i like the imperfection because that has charme to me. it's like a "little out of tune" upright piano and this imperfection stucks in your head, imho.
Siggi
Hi there! I feel the need to reply here, as I own the same synths, but only 1 Andromeda.
These three synths are my desert island synths. Although in many discussions they jump up as competitors to each other, I do not see the point. They are very different from each other. I will compare them maybe in more detail early next year, but my short summary of the three:
Andromeda A6: Sick analog poly with perfect tonal character in the oscs and filters for creating film- and trance sounds. Modulation routings need to be used. I really like that this synth has its own raw character, and not that it sounds like a Moog. Funny thing, although the A6 is an analog synth, it can produce quite convinsing JP80x0 supersaw too, when using unison.
Prophet 12: Currently my favourite hybrid synth with lots of mod possibilities, using mostly for big sad BOC-style strings / pads, 80's synth and film music sounds. Some people do not like the filters, but I like them alot. Massive organic sounds come out of this thing when using modulations and feedback.
Solaris: My latest addition. IMO the best digital synthesizer there is. With all the choices in the oscillator and filter sections, this is capable of producing both analog and digital type of sounds with really high quality. It is fantastic that the synth allows using wavetables, analog type waveforms, ppg and vs waves at the same time. However, although it is possible to produce analog style sounds with the Solaris using clever modulation, it is quite obvious that you are working with a digital instrument. The filters are the best digital filters I have used, but there is just something when turning the filter cutoff of an Andromeda for example. It is easy to say which one is digital, which one is analog. The Solaris has the best UI and keyboard action of all three. Superb sounds come out of this thing when using different types of oscillators and modulations. At first, I will focus on trance sounds and big strings and pads with BOC-flavours. The Jaws can do quite convincing JP80x0 supersaw emulation, if needed. I am considering selling my 8080 because of this. Due to the fact that the Solaris has the Waldorf wavetables too, I need to consider, whether I should keep my Microwave XTk or not...
About the drift parameter. I never use the slop function of my Prophet 12. I always program my own drift settings with the lfo's and other things. The same with Andromeda and Solaris too. However, drift parameter could be useful for reserving lfo's and mod slots for other things. What I would want in Solaris is more mod destination slots for oscillators. I often consume most of them while creating my custom drift / vibrato function. I still need to read the manual more carefully, but it would be nice if there were common mod slots for all oscillators pitch, because now I create the same pitch modulations in the mod slots of all oscillators. P12 has a destination "All osc freq" in the mod matrix that I use alot.
[quote="digidisiggi"]just a little note from somebody who own now the solaris, p12 and two A6:
there are all different beasts, but on thing comes into my mind:
- love the p12 with the nice slop parameter (random detune)
- love the A6 but never push the autotune !!
- love the solaris, this machine sounds so unbelievble fat and the editing is just superb but one thing i'm missing the most: a simple drift parameter.
you got it? i like the imperfection because that has charme to me. it's like a "little out of tune" upright piano and this imperfection stucks in your head, imho.
Siggi[/quote]
Hi there! I feel the need to reply here, as I own the same synths, but only 1 Andromeda. :)
These three synths are my desert island synths. Although in many discussions they jump up as competitors to each other, I do not see the point. They are very different from each other. I will compare them maybe in more detail early next year, but my short summary of the three:
[b]Andromeda A6[/b]: Sick analog poly with perfect tonal character in the oscs and filters for creating film- and trance sounds. Modulation routings need to be used. I really like that this synth has its own raw character, and not that it sounds like a Moog. Funny thing, although the A6 is an analog synth, it can produce quite convinsing JP80x0 supersaw too, when using unison.
[b]Prophet 12[/b]: Currently my favourite hybrid synth with lots of mod possibilities, using mostly for big sad BOC-style strings / pads, 80's synth and film music sounds. Some people do not like the filters, but I like them alot. Massive organic sounds come out of this thing when using modulations and feedback.
[b]Solaris[/b]: My latest addition. IMO the best digital synthesizer there is. With all the choices in the oscillator and filter sections, this is capable of producing both analog and digital type of sounds with really high quality. It is fantastic that the synth allows using wavetables, analog type waveforms, ppg and vs waves at the same time. However, although it is possible to produce analog style sounds with the Solaris using clever modulation, it is quite obvious that you are working with a digital instrument. The filters are the best digital filters I have used, but there is just something when turning the filter cutoff of an Andromeda for example. It is easy to say which one is digital, which one is analog. The Solaris has the best UI and keyboard action of all three. Superb sounds come out of this thing when using different types of oscillators and modulations. At first, I will focus on trance sounds and big strings and pads with BOC-flavours. The Jaws can do quite convincing JP80x0 supersaw emulation, if needed. I am considering selling my 8080 because of this. Due to the fact that the Solaris has the Waldorf wavetables too, I need to consider, whether I should keep my Microwave XTk or not...
About the drift parameter. I never use the slop function of my Prophet 12. I always program my own drift settings with the lfo's and other things. The same with Andromeda and Solaris too. However, drift parameter could be useful for reserving lfo's and mod slots for other things. What I would want in Solaris is more mod destination slots for oscillators. I often consume most of them while creating my custom drift / vibrato function. I still need to read the manual more carefully, but it would be nice if there were common mod slots for all oscillators pitch, because now I create the same pitch modulations in the mod slots of all oscillators. P12 has a destination "All osc freq" in the mod matrix that I use alot.